The Hail Mary Pass... Or why some guys do and some don't!

Foreword
This is a call to all other dorks, nerds and other intraverted blokes reading my blog... We need to go out there and try things more!
As I was narrating the story of the end of my evening to a female friend in Canada, I realized this was prime material for some of my readership, so here you are somewhat delayed the edited version of this chat. If you are not a single male, please stop reading now... Or read on to your discretion...

To Barney S. and the Naked Man, without whom this could never have been possible...

The Intro (and a bit of shameless commercial for myself)
[01:01:09] PC says: And you? You'll have a tough time then I hear?
[01:02:01] Young Lady says: with this semester? well, the entire semester is going to be rough, but i know when you're coming in, so as long as I don't have a presentation the next day, then i should be up for whatever
[01:02:23] PC says: COOOOOOOOOOOOL
[01:02:33] Young Lady says: i'm excited! it's always a fun time with patrice!
[01:02:38] PC says: let me tell you two things preventively...
[01:02:45] Young Lady says: ok...

The reason this chat took place in the first place
[01:03:05] PC says: #1 : Even though my speech (chat) might sound coherent - I am somewhat under the influence right now...
[01:03:12] Young Lady says: hahahahaha
[01:03:13] Young Lady says: nice
[01:03:18] Young Lady says: i wouldn't expect less, patrice.

The topic of the chat - the Hail Mary pass
[01:03:19] PC says: AND
[01:03:28] PC says: #2 : I have to tell you a little story about what big sport bet enthusiasts call the "Hail Mary Pass"
BTW: sorry you might have slipped into my whining about the current evening, please feel free to do something else while I write my sorry story



The setting of the story

So tonight I had some pints with a couple friends in a trendy location (somewhat off the trend, it was actually trendy 4 years ago, but still)
So I am with those two good friends (two ex-BCGers) at the tramway station (Zurich still has tramways, they are way cool btw)
and we watch the SNL short "Dick in a box" on an iPhone

[01:06:30] Young Lady says: hahaha, that's an amazing skit

then they go with a tram, but I have to go in the opposite direction...

The story per se
I cross the lines and start waiting... and I see a gorgeous even though a bit older looking woman... (when I say a bit older I mean mid-thirties)

[01:07:52] Young Lady says: haha, ok.

so I go up to her and ask:
"Are you waiting for a tram? Do you know for sure a tram is coming?"
She answer that yes, a 2 and a 3 are coming... or an 8 or a 14... No a 2 or a 3...
"oh ok, we live in the same region... Kalkbreite, right?"
She nods... and she says something about my accent and about the fact that she has lived in France back in the days...

We chat for about five minutes about accents, about her having been in France, her being from Germany, not far from Luxemburg, me knowing Luxembourg, her having been in Zurich for 8 years, me being from Lake Geneva region, her knowing Lake Geneva region, me not being french, her knowing Lake Geneva region, her speaking French, her having been in france twenty years ago upon completion of high school...

well... I figure she's at the end of her thirties... She obviously loves my accent, I think of her more and more as a potential lover, so I even decide to go for a so called "Hail Mary Pass" (like in American Football, when a Quarterback goes for an impossible pass in the hope a wide receiver or a tight end will get it)

Then she somehow mentionned she had had two too many wine glasses. That's where I missed my first opening...

We talk a bit more about accents and I go all shy on saying I like to conceal my accent as I don't like to play it as a seductive play...
She replies it has "du charme" and she "loves it", but she also states she likes it much more than her boyfriends accent, her boyfriend being Swiss German...

And there...

I lost it...

All seduction theory says you should ignore when a girl says she has a boyfriend... But I just didn't... Stupid me!

[01:22:10] Young Lady says: awwwww, you went for it anyways?

No, I didn't! I kept saying "well... You ought to love the Swiss German accent" and imitated it to great comic effect...

I suggested "dinner among girlfriends?"

She said no, dinner with her boyfriend

[01:24:18] Young Lady says: and....?

I should have replied "so why is he not with you?"

By the way: by this time we have gotten out of the tram and we are talking on the street... So attraction is proved, as she'd have walked out on me if it hadn't been the case!

[01:26:13] Young Lady says: hm

So I should have replied "so why didn't you take him home" and followed with a classic "I don't know how you feel about him, I feel you're not so sure, but I'll be away for 8 weeks and I'd hate myself for not doing this..." and kissed her right there on the spot...

[01:26:55] Young Lady says: but you didn't

Considerations
A bit of theory might be needed here

40 year olds think kissing is trivial and shagging can be explained by a mere physical need... So one should kiss them and try to lead from that to actual scoring...

[01:27:43] Young Lady says: well, maybe

It's funny how some women deny the fact that a good kiss with a hand in the hair at the right place and the right whisper at the right strength in the ear can ultimately lead to sex. It's not about feelings anymore, it's all just learned skills... like a circus monkey!

Anti-Climax
But I went with a much more defensive line... I made her laugh a bit more and then we parted ways...

[01:30:11] Young Lady says: haha

Much like a quarterback putting his knee down without hope of getting anything out of the drive instead of doing a Hail Mary Pass and try to get somewhere with that... I dropped the ball on "third and ten"! And then all that was left to me was to kick myself...

tsss...

Until next time, may you go for the Hail Mary Pass sometime...
Cheers,
P

Plain ladies - Slutiness or Virtue?

Here's a theory that I've had for some time and finally made it to digital!

[Some lines of transversal discussion have been removed but most the chat is complete...
Unedited for orthography nor grammar!
The name of my sparring partner has been removed, but I can only say it's a very smart cookie!!!]

The intro & the build-up

[01:18:57] A Fabulous Chick: patrice!!
[01:19:02] A Fabulous Chick: cheer me up please :)
[01:19:32] ME : I'm in a Skype threesome right now and at the same time online with S and trying to write an article about fat chicks
[01:20:03] ME : but let me stop all that NOW
[01:20:13] A Fabulous Chick: lol
[01:20:25] A Fabulous Chick: fat chicks...? i dont even really want to know what triggered that
[01:20:29] *** PC has changed the chat topic to "Patrice goes for the better task of cheering up Mademoiselle!!!"
***

The theory

[01:32:03] ME : I've had this theory for a long time: Unattractive ladies tend to drift one of two ways and then reinforce that stance progressively until it's not really decent anymore...
[01:35:04] A Fabulous Chick: and im not sure i get your theory, but thats not really surprising lol
[01:35:09] ME: Either they get laid and discover the carnal pleasures and then tend to be a bit easier and more explorative (for lack of a better word) than regular ladies
[01:38:13] ME: so back to our slightly overweight ladies
[01:38:21] A Fabulous Chick: yes
[01:38:34] A Fabulous Chick: well i have a theory on that too
[01:38:41] ME: so either they have a normal sex life and become slutty in order to get some
[01:38:47] ME: sorry for the reduction
[01:39:11] ME: Or they rationalize the fact that they don't get men by stating that they themselves are quite picky and waiting for Mr. Right
[01:39:23] ME: of course this attitude is the highway to spinster...
[01:39:49] ME: but some stay this course for a looooooong time before going for diet or slutdom
[01:40:00] A Fabulous Chick: well OR they realise that overweight is not a characteristic but rather a current state and actually take action
[01:40:01] ME: (or is it rather sluttiness)
[01:40:19] ME: true - going for diet
[01:40:32] ME: I know people who went that way quite successfully actually

The awkward moment

[01:40:48] A Fabulous Chick: i dont think that there is a higher proportion of fat women dressing slutty than other women
[01:40:59] A Fabulous Chick: i just think you notice them more (in a weird way)
[01:41:36] ME: I'm not talking about dressing
[01:41:40] ME: I'm talking behaviour
[01:41:45] ME: putting out
[01:41:52] A Fabulous Chick: still, im not buying it
[01:41:57] ME: well
[01:42:31] ME: the prude, pruder, even more prude, so prude it's silly and finally Sister Maria-Magdalena prude evolution has been proven
[01:42:44] ME: and the "put out" version not quite...

The very awkward moment

[01:42:56] A Fabulous Chick: mmmmmmmmmmm
[01:43:06] A Fabulous Chick: have you been sleeping with fat women?? is this the issue

The finale

[01:43:06] ME: but first and foremost because many quite attractive women are also happy in bed...
[01:43:14] A Fabulous Chick: (smirk)

Thank you Mademoiselle, you are truly fabulous!

Cheers,
P

PS: Dédicace spéciale à un admiratrice silencieuse... Chose promise, chose dûe!

When the night has come...

... and the land is dark, and the moon is the only light we'll see...

A part bien sûr l'immeuble de Plainpalais en face de chez Victo!

A cette heure là quand je bosse, j'ai tendance à lire et écrire n'importe quoi...

Faire une étude comparative qui devrait être exposée au Forum de recrutement à travers les HEC* de ce monde:
- Vous voulez être investment banker, lisez ça
- Vous voulez être avocat, lisez ça
- Vous voulez être consultant, lisez ça

Ensuite je finis par envoyer un mail à des amis

From: Patrice To: David; Adrien
Subject: Something I think you should see :-)

http://www.gettingdrunkinfirstclass.com/2007/02/26/big-kids-on-the-block/
At least we now know :-)
P

From: Adrien To: Patrice
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 00:50
Subject: RE: Something I think you should see :-)

If you had a choice between Bain or BCG, you might as well flip a coin.
:-)

From: Patrice To: Adrien
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 00:52

Quatre femmes prennent le café ensemble.
- La première est jalouse.
- La deuxième est triste.
- La troisième est romantique.
- La quatrième est vierge.

Quelle quantité de lait chacune va-t-elle mettre dans son café?

From: Adrien To: Patrice
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 00:57

La jalouse va voler de la romantique parce qu'elle la hait parce qu'elle aimerait etre romantique aussi, c'est pour ca qu'elle est jalouse
La triste va loader de sucre pour se remonter le moral et va pas mettre de lait parce que tellement y'aura de sucre le cafe il va deborder
La romantique va vouloir mettre un peu de lait pour pas que le cafe soit trop fort pour continuer à revasser, mais elle n'en aura pas parce qu'elle se sera tout fait piquer par la jalouse, la salope
La vierge va loader son café de lait parce qu'elle a l'habitude de boire du sperme vu qu'elle s'est jamais fait sauter et qu'elle a seulement tire des pipes dans sa vie comme toutes les vierges, etre nous soit dit pas plus salopes que les autres

From: Patrice To: Adrien
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 00:59

La jalouse en prendra un soupçon...
La triste en prendra une larme...
La romantique en prendra un nuage...

From: Patrice To: Adrien
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 00:59

Viens de lire ton mail - énorme!
Et pas moins salopes non plus les vierges...

From: Patrice To: Adrien
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 01:00

Et la vierge d'ailleurs en prendra juste un doigt...

From: Patrice To: Adrien
Sent: Freitag, 4. Mai 2007 01:00

Et peut-être un whisky d'abord histoire d'en faire un irish coffee...

Finalement, je vais mettre mon grain de sel sur le blog de Reb et je pond un pavé résumé et critique sur la théorie de l'échelle

Puis ceci et demain, j'aurais pas fini mon boulot et j'aurais la forme...
Buona notte!
P

* Je pense HSG très fort, mais je dois considérer mon lectorat Lausannois

Investment theory et séduction...

Mon gros problème: J'aimerais être un playboy, mais en fait je suis juste un mec comme les autres auxquels les demoiselles préféreraient mettre la corde au cou plutôt que de simplement faire un passage par la case lit... et continuer leur chemin!

Extrait de msn log

Demoiselle anonyme [23:23]:
Est ce que c est vraiment humain et raisonnable de faire un DCF a 23h23?
pas sure

Choffat Patrice [23:24]:
Est-ce que c'est l'essence du métier de M&A?
On joue à Jeopardy? Métiers pour 500?
Un job qui fait que cela te fait ch... grave de passer tes soirées dans un * michelin...
Qu'est-ce que le consulting?

Demoiselle anonyme [23:26]:
Un job qui fait que cela te fait ch.. grave de passer tes soirees dans un * michelin
et je n ai pas l intention de re faire du m&a

Choffat Patrice [23:27]:
tu a retippé ma quote?
métiers pour 800
Un job qui fait que tu vois qu'il manque un point de suspension

Demoiselle anonyme [23:28]:
j ai repondu a ta question..

Choffat Patrice [23:28]:
Qu'est-ce que le consulting?
elle était pourtant facile

Demoiselle anonyme [23:28]:
j ecris tres vite....

Choffat Patrice [23:29]:
frimeuse
avec quatre points de suspension pour montrer ta rapidité?

Demoiselle anonyme [23:29]:
ou je peux les effacer...
exactement

[NDLR: je passe un bout sur les Tanxen200 bien que certains auraient peut-être bien ri]

Choffat Patrice [23:41]:
je suis en pleine écriture de théorie de nouveau
sur la drague et les stratégies d'investissement

Demoiselle anonyme [23:42]:
long vs short term?
(tu me dedicaceras un exemplaire qd tu publieras?)

Choffat Patrice [23:44]:
pas tout à fait
il existe les théories de "De Angelo" qui formulent à la base les huit archétypes d'hommes ayant du succès pour attirer les femmes
Style "double your dating"
et si tu voulais aller sur google pour aller voir ce que c'est je peux direct te forwarder le pdf du book pour que tu puisses te faire une idée toi-même
en tout cas il pose qu'il existe deux façons d'appeler à la sensibilité féminine, chacune utilisée par quatre archétypes (ça tombe bien)

Demoiselle anonyme [23:45]:
(pour la lecture du book peut etre pas ce soir, il parait qu je dois bosser...) mais je compte sur toi pour msner le resume...

Choffat Patrice [23:46]:
je ne sais plus comment il les appelle, mais il parle essentiellement de "potentiel mari" (parce qu'intéressant d'une manière ou d'une autre sur le long-terme) ou de "potentiel coup" (parce que spécial au niveau sexuel)
bref
Il rationnalise qu'une femme ne couchera pas avec le potentiel mari rapidement parce qu'elle veut d'abord se prouver qu'il restera (ce qui est normal), alors qu'avec l'autre why not...
je réfléchissais sur autre chose en fait
toujours est-il qu'il me semble que le "coup" joue sur l'effet de nouveauté, de mystère, de style bien à lui... alors que l'autre joue un jeu solide et durable, mais sans tenter quoi que ce soit sur le court-terme...

comme des stratégies bien connues, ceux qui jouent "event-driven" ou ceux qui jouent les fundamentals...

c nul, passionnant ou tu t'es carrément remise à bosser (ou à chatter avec d'autres personnes) entre-temps?
bref

Demoiselle anonyme [23:51]:
j alterne entre prez de schroeder et ton recit...
(parce que faut bien la lire cette f.. prez!)

Choffat Patrice [23:52]:
cela m'est apparu hier soir, alors que Victo me disait au sujet d'une de ses amies que j'avais rencontré en septembre, ce qui revenait essentiellement à "tu as raté ton créneau"

Demoiselle anonyme [23:53]:
qui? elle ou toi?

Choffat Patrice [23:54]:
que Patrice avait raté son créneau avec sa copine...
imagine une fille disant le contraire à la personne en question, ce serait comique, non?
"je pensais qu'elle avait ses chances avec toi, mais elle a trop attendu, tu ne voudra plus d'elle maintenant"
j'imagine les têtes des mecs entendant cela
bref, opinion avisée? Sur la théorie, pas sur mon créneau raté...

Demoiselle anonyme [23:55]:
c est le creneau qui n etais pas clair... mais c est bon j y suis
conclusions?
parce que oui certes ya les "coups", enfin on se comprend.. et les autres...

Choffat Patrice [23:57]:
conclusion I: c'est similaire à ces théories d'investissement

Demoiselle anonyme [23:57]:
c est bien ce que je disais sur short et long term non?

Choffat Patrice [23:59]:
conclusion II: moi qui ai toujours joué fundamentals, parce que j'étais, suis et reste convaincu que c'est la seule façon de trouver la femme de ma vie... Moi-même qui régulièrement me suis dit qu'il fallait que je devienne un spécialiste du "coup"... La première chose que je me suis dit "mais non, je n'ai pas raté de créneau. Même si elle avait trouvé qqun, ce ne serait pas très grave"...
oui, mais pas forcément...
j'aime pas l'idée de comparer short et long term, parce que cela ne dit rien sur le fond...

Demoiselle anonyme [00:00]:
short =
zut
je vois ta nuance

Choffat Patrice [00:01]:
je pense que je ne vais pas écrire l'article...

Demoiselle anonyme [00:01]:
y porqué?

Choffat Patrice [00:02]:
je vais juste publier notre discussion
et signer Platon

Demoiselle anonyme [00:02]:
lol
copyrights

[Je vous passe la fin aussi sur la politique française et les théories de Stern Stewart (Economic Value Added) et BCG (Total Shareholder Return)]

Bonne soirée,
P